bolt on subframe con.

[01 T/A]

:confused:im going to be geting some subframe conns, sone but i dont want to weld them on in case i ever want to turn the car back to stock. is the bolt on one going to do a good job or are they just a way to lose money? is there a limet to what kind of power i can put down befor the frame bends?

[strc09]

There is always a limit the car can take before it warps the frame. Stock is almost too much depending on who you ask. As for the SFCs, I personally wouldn't ever use bolt-in ones. Again, some people have had issues with them fitting properly. Remember they're tested and manufactured for cars that come straight off the assembly line and not for cars that have been driven...especially hard. If you were to ever return your car to stock the SFCs would still be beneficial to yourself or the new owner. They're just a smart upgrade.

[Bo]

I personally wouldn't waste my money, esp. as a first mod. The 4th gens aren't as weak as some would lead you to believe. Are they a bad thing to have? No, and they do add a very nice jacking area if you have boxed SFCs. Are they necessary? No.

If I were to add them, I would make them one of my last mods after I modded other areas.

[Batman08]

I was looking at sfc's too but Im not gonna do that till after my cam and i would weld them also.

[Bo]

If do end up getting SFCs, get bolt in ones. You can always have them welded in later if you like.

[DKITCHEN]

I personally wouldn't waste my money, esp. as a first mod. The 4th gens aren't as weak as some would lead you to believe. Are they a bad thing to have? No, and they do add a very nice jacking area if you have boxed SFCs. Are they necessary? No.

If I were to add them, I would make them one of my last mods after I modded other areas.

If I had it to do over, I would have put the SFC's on before I did anything else. I have the bolt on slp's that connect in the middle as well. I put mine on at 120k miles and it tightened up everything. Less squeeks and rattles and a huge improvement throwing the car around on and off ramps. The jacking area is great also, I can put my jack right behind the front tire and it pulls the back tires off the ground at the same time. They're really not that expensive anyway, definately not a waste of money even on a bone stock car.

[1BDTRAM]

If I had it to do over, I would have put the SFC's on before I did anything else. I have the bolt on slp's that connect in the middle as well. I put mine on at 120k miles and it tightened up everything. Less squeeks and rattles and a huge improvement throwing the car around on and off ramps. The jacking area is great also, I can put my jack right behind the front tire and it pulls the back tires off the ground at the same time. They're really not that expensive anyway, definately not a waste of money even on a bone stock car.

I SECOND THAT! SFCs make a world of difference. And so do Poly mods!

My Basic mod list for stock cars go as this.

CAI/FIPK
SFCs
Polyurethane tranny mount
Polyurethane motor mounts
Cat-back
Headers
Plugs
Shifter
Gears

[2Slow4Drags]

SFC are amazing. I bought a set from UMI performance. the are a 3-point setup. I bought the bolt in, then tack welded a few spots. If you do add a bit more power you will be spinning. In order to get the most out of your mods you need to put the power to the road. I did an adjustable torque arm and relocation bracket, and tubular LCA with relocation brackets and the car hooks up nice. I was planning on an STS turbo this year but I went the suspension route so whenever I do add big power I can use it.